:: orochinagi

This dude is not the XI version, just to point it out first. But the moves that are in XI are in this game as well.

Far C cancellable. Close C and D are both cancellable, even though I think close D's cancel timing is different from XI.

Air +P: Throws ninja dart thingy diagonally downwards. Currently can't see whether distance is adjusted for the A/C version. It's pretty fast, and it seems that the CPU really likes to fall for this move. From what I read, this move can OTG.
+P: Goes pretty far, the blast is about 1.5 character space long. Good for keeping the opponent grounded and rather safe, it seems. But not a good anti-air move, mind you. C version goes really far.
+P: Not much range, but comes out pretty fast and definitely hits the opponent whether it's the start or the end of the move. Good anti-almost everything move.
+K: Teleport. From what I read, B version has upper body invincibility, and D version has lower body invincibility.
+K: Dashing slash thingy. Unlike XI, it knocks opponent away instead. Note that if blocked, Eiji is sorta open for a combo.
+P: I don't see much use here yet. Maybe it reflects fierballs? Anyway it was noted that he can do low D -> +P in the corner.
+K: Seems crappier now. But still decent on block. From what I played, +D, land then far C->qcf+P seems like a decent pressure string and is rather repeatable.

,hcb+P: Hueg fierball, comboable and comes out really quickly. C version is for opponents who try to do something funny, while A version works better as anti-air. Main super.
,hcb+K: Ranbu moev, stops if blocked. Anyway, it was noted that it can link from low B->low A, and it's generally advised that it be done in combos instead.

I know this isn't a vid thread, but...

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_cg00XMTY4MjAxMTI=.html

... Eiji's Kikoho (or whatever his +P move is called) is just too good. It even stopped Kyo's RED Kick and nulifies projectiles.

From what I can tell, he's a very solid and good char to use. LMAO @ far standing C -> Kikoho. It seems like they programmed him partially based on his XI incarnation.

In the videos Eiji goes jump d, d (1hit) a then whatever.

Eiji's -P looks crazy good this time, seems to stop just about everything!

his close D is automatically two hits. very beginner friendly since it gives you so much time to decide on what move you want to combo into.

down D on first hit still cancels like xi into whatever. A kikoho, A reflect, slash, either supers

b, a into either of his supers dm or sdm all work.

+B on block seems to be really safe. Follow your a blocked s.D> +B with another close s.D, and your stand D will very likely beat whatever they throw out.

From Wiki:

c.B> c.A> Quick Max> s.D> Ranbu Super

c.D> Quick Dodge> Dodge Attack> Ranbu Super

Any confirmation that eijis + P still reflects projectiles?

Yep it does.

oh thanks, I´ve seen a lot of vids, but nobody seems to do it when characters like krauser or ex king throws them

That probably because most Krauser and Ex King players will use fireballs against Eiji very sparingly and only under the right set ups (e.g., as a meaty or off a blocked string). Its not the reflect they're worried about... its the super =p

AcidicEnema wrote:That probably because most Krauser and Ex King players will use fireballs against Eiji very sparingly and only under the right set ups (e.g., as a meaty or off a blocked string). Its not the reflect they're worried about... its the super =p

oh I see, one thing I noticed is that his + p does not negate fireballs like on KoF XI :-( or at least ive seen some vids in which they do it and they get hit by the fireball anyways

AcidicEnema wrote: From Wiki:

d.B> d.A> Quick Max> s.D> Ranbu Super

Works better on crossups and taller characters. Holding before pressing D helps too. I rather skip the d.A part and just do d.B> QMAX> s.D> Ranbu DM.

-d.B, Close B, Far s.B> B Ranbu DM or C Projectile DM.

-qcb+P is the only special that combos off light attacks, hence dash d.A> +P is the best choice for punishing (outside of Projectile DM). Even fast enough to punish a blocked set of Iori's Deadly Flowers (qcb+P x 3)

-Like Kasumi, backx2~qcf+P is good for zoning and relatively safe.

-Close A/B/C/D, Far A/B/C all cancel.

-Advance mode combo: Full screen Projectile DM [counter], Projectile SDM.

-qcf+A is for combos (off a s.D or d.D usually) and +C is for near-full screen usage.

-Worth mentioning again, +P is super fast, and the hitbox is huge, above you and slightly behind you (you can stuff rolls although +C is better)

-C Projectile DM is so fast it's not funny, good twitch anti-air DM too.

-If the opponent jumps at you and you time a late d.C [counter] > A Projectile DM.

Eiji plays pretty differently from XI despite his moves being practically identical. The larger sprites in UM means I use him as a zoner rather than going in aggressively. He's slightly toned down from XI: the (C) fireball DM is slower than in XI, and you have to anticipate a fireball, since if you throw in out in response, opponent has time to block, unlike in XI where your opponent is screwed once they toss a fireball when Eiji has stock.

On the other hand, gratuitous mixing of his +P and air fireball at the right distance can drive anyone nuts. Heck, Eiji plays almost like a shoto: bait someone into jumping, then hit them with a +P, which is pretty much a Moon Slasher that you don't have charge. The hitbox for that is HUGE, and it lasts long enough to catch rollers as well. As much as I like using Eiji, I'd hate to fight another Eiji user.

I think Eiji's projectile DM has gotta be overall, top 3 best DMs (at the DM level at least) in UM... and I'll add that Ex King's Surprise Rose DM and Krauser's Rush DM is up there as well.

Played against an Eiji player today, dude's +P is scary. Even if my Beni does the drill which gives him some extra time to avoid Eiji's +P, he still gets hit by that move.