:: orochinagi

Seriously, if you didn't like the TE, you won't like ANY of the other modern sticks.

Did you play on bat stick in the arcades? If so, that's what you need.

Your other solutions are finding a sega saturn pad or a nicely worn in ps1 or ps2 pad with a converter. How are you playing on ggpo?

The TE is the best investment I have made in the past 2 years. At first I hated it so much because it's a chore to get used to, but now I don't regret learning it at all. It's really humbling and stops you from mashing or wildly throwing out moves.

I started playing SF with a square gate which I hated so I switched to octag. right before KOFXIII and love it. You can feel every corner and angle which makes things more precise. I hated square gate because I couldn't feel anything but 4 corners which makes you gravitate to them especially if you play charge chars.

So really it could be the style of the stick top, the gate or it could be you are just adjusting to it. It just sucks to get rid of something that is such a good teaching tool.

I own a TE (two in fact, for PS3 and Xbox) but for some reason I prefer the stick on my HRAP3. I think the gate might be smaller, which reduces the 'throw' of the stick a little and makes it easier to do moves. I haven't actually looked up the parts list for both sticks to actually verify that this is the case, though.

May be my lacking skills in English, but what's this 'gate' you are referring to?

Gunsmith wrote:Seriously, if you didn't like the TE, you won't like ANY of the other modern sticks.

Did you play on bat stick in the arcades? If so, that's what you need.

Your other solutions are finding a sega saturn pad or a nicely worn in ps1 or ps2 pad with a converter. How are you playing on ggpo?

What I disliked was the ball, it was too short. The buttons were fine, the size and the weight were a bit awkward at first, but then alright.

And yup, the bat stick is/was the most common type of stick you can find in Mexico city. The ball sticks were mostly used for Pac-man style of games (or probably more expensive, which explains why it wasn't all that popular).

The only thing I didn't like of the Saturn pad were the buttons. They seemed cheap. Then we started playing and magic was being done with my hands. <3 Also, you mean PS3 pads are bad? I knew I wasn't crazy. For some odd reason, PS2 pads are better, I don't really know why.

Talking about sticks I have to say the HORI ones are IDEAL for kof players. the joystick makes the moves alot smoother

this one im using ATM



hope this help for some

Kain wrote:May be my lacking skills in English, but what's this 'gate' you are referring to?

Gunsmith wrote:Seriously, if you didn't like the TE, you won't like ANY of the other modern sticks.

Did you play on bat stick in the arcades? If so, that's what you need.

Your other solutions are finding a sega saturn pad or a nicely worn in ps1 or ps2 pad with a converter. How are you playing on ggpo?

What I disliked was the ball, it was too short. The buttons were fine, the size and the weight were a bit awkward at first, but then alright.

And yup, the bat stick is/was the most common type of stick you can find in Mexico city. The ball sticks were mostly used for Pac-man style of games (or probably more expensive, which explains why it wasn't all that popular).

The only thing I didn't like of the Saturn pad were the buttons. They seemed cheap. Then we started playing and magic was being done with my hands. <3 Also, you mean PS3 pads are bad? I knew I wasn't crazy. For some odd reason, PS2 pads are better, I don't really know why.

If you can find an original six axis without the dual shock they're pretty good for fighters on PS3.

I've had a dual shock 3 as my second for a long time, and that bastard just won't break in no matter what.

Mature wrote:Talking about sticks I have to say the HORI ones are IDEAL for kof players. the joystick makes the moves alot smoother

this one im using ATM



hope this help for some

Lol, thats the same stick I use but without the picture haha.

Mature wrote:Talking about sticks I have to say the HORI ones are IDEAL for kof players. the joystick makes the moves alot smoother

this one im using ATM

hope this help for some

I agree
this is my favorite for KOF on GGPO
but I use the Qanba for KOF XIII

Hey Gaiz

psn is laggy - article coming soon with proof
xbl is less laggy

all new sticks with autofire and multiconsole options have lag - you saw my review of the qanba and hori vx?
and guess what, 360 mode on these sticks have less lag.

hdmi tvs have lag, u need vga.

perfect experience is a CRT tv and a stick with no features.

have a nice day

Are you for real?

I REALLY dont want to change all that for online, and we (fans / players) shouldnt have too...

EDIT: New vid

translation!



It seems they are going through different modes that some characters have and how it effects damage and situation wise?

Gunsmith wrote:Hey Gaiz

psn is laggy - article coming soon with proof
xbl is less laggy

Whats new?
Are u testing this on the PS3 with 720 as native?
Also do u know if the PS3(offline) has more input latency than the X360(offline) in KOF13 as it does in other fighters?
I havent had the chance to properly test this myself as my PS3 is dead and the PS3 version I played was on a BIG HDTV & was online.

Gunsmith wrote: all new sticks with autofire and multiconsole options have lag - you saw my review of the qanba and hori vx?
and guess what, 360 mode on these sticks have less lag.

Do u know if an X360 TE modded with the chimp board will experience lag on either? Ive already got problems with it sometimes auto-disconnecting on X360, think im gonna hevto remove it. Wish toodles told me before I bought it!
Did u get to test the Qanba on a X360 at all? Or just on PS3 in X360 mode?

Gunsmith wrote: hdmi tvs have lag, u need vga.

perfect experience is a CRT tv and a stick with no features.

have a nice day

Does this apply to monitors with quick response time? (with KOF)
I use a low lag monitor, if I use VGA instead of HDMI will that give me even quicker response time?
Using HDMI cables I can feel a world of difference in lag between my 24" monitor & my 50" HDTV.
Also ive tried switching from HDTV to SDTV once before with SSF4 and the game seems to play slower(good thing), but it took me awhile to get used to the speed. Which is a doozy cos who else uses SD these days for games.
Would be good if a respected dev(or someone with this kinda authority) came out and told us what the ultimate setup is after CRT.

Sorry for the interrogation, I heavily rely on muscle memory to play fighters and im after the ultimate HD setup myself.

to make lag more bearable you need to set up a static IP too for your PS3

i use a smaller lcd with minimal lag and on component on ps3. friend of mine uses 360 on crt and the timings are identical. both consoles lag more on a nice big led screen, so fuck that (even though the shit looks so purty). the difference between online on 360 and ps3 is minimal, unnoticeable almost. that being said both are crap and have huge input leniency compared to offline. on the controller issues, i really dont know. i play on analog on ds3 and yeah it sucks, but inputs feel the same as on friends 360 with te stick. my lil bro will be bringing me 2 neo usb pads when he returns from japan, and i expect them to have nog lag at all. i love the pads, i think ive killed 6 or 7 of these during my neo cd years from 94 to 99. those where some great years though, and i think i read that the build quality is also slightly better than the og neo cd ones. i love that d-pad/thumb-stick, but shit doesn't last very long.

p.s. anybody here use the marvel 360 pelican pad? is it as good and precise as the neo cd one.

Just a quick note, I'm gonna post more about the lag thing later, as I'm preparing a big article about it.

I'm considering getting KOFXIII on 360 since I got a 360 for x-mas. So that will be an interesting little write up to read from you Gunsmith.

I was proud to see KOF at Next Level last night. Sadly I couldn't go because I heard it was going to snow . Hopefully they have more KOF tornys so I can go and get some exp. I know everyone was complaining that the guys played horrible but NY has little to no KOF torny experience. It shows that East coast NY needs to play more than just SF and Marvel more often.